1 00:02:00,230 --> 00:01:30,200 [Music] 2 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:11,910 what's up everybody 3 00:02:11,920 --> 00:02:15,910 how's everyone doing today 4 00:02:15,920 --> 00:02:20,440 like my new poster 5 00:02:26,470 --> 00:02:24,229 [Laughter] 6 00:02:31,350 --> 00:02:26,480 pretty cool red 7 00:02:34,830 --> 00:02:32,790 what's up robert 8 00:02:37,830 --> 00:02:34,840 ob 9 00:02:38,949 --> 00:02:37,840 flat okay 42 d 10 00:02:41,910 --> 00:02:38,959 josh 11 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:47,270 scott brown what's up 12 00:02:53,589 --> 00:02:50,450 merch i should sell that as merce 13 00:02:58,630 --> 00:02:53,599 [Laughter] 14 00:03:02,630 --> 00:03:01,670 i guess it's just not ever like i'm 15 00:03:04,710 --> 00:03:02,640 always 16 00:03:07,430 --> 00:03:04,720 you know 17 00:03:09,910 --> 00:03:07,440 to be honest i'm always like 18 00:03:12,390 --> 00:03:09,920 looking at documents and stuff and 19 00:03:13,430 --> 00:03:12,400 doing things that are fun to me like 20 00:03:14,710 --> 00:03:13,440 creating 21 00:03:18,229 --> 00:03:14,720 posters 22 00:03:23,030 --> 00:03:18,239 or um 23 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,430 um 24 00:03:29,589 --> 00:03:27,190 so i don't know that's always like the 25 00:03:35,350 --> 00:03:29,599 last thing that i want to get to but 26 00:03:37,190 --> 00:03:36,149 so 27 00:03:39,589 --> 00:03:37,200 you know 28 00:03:41,910 --> 00:03:39,599 and then we got the like the galaxy 29 00:03:45,509 --> 00:03:41,920 stars thing over there in the corner 30 00:03:52,309 --> 00:03:48,300 it's pretty cool 31 00:03:55,750 --> 00:03:53,670 yeah so 32 00:03:58,869 --> 00:03:55,760 uh but you know getting 33 00:04:02,630 --> 00:03:58,879 some sort of money would be cool one day 34 00:04:05,589 --> 00:04:04,550 but 35 00:04:08,710 --> 00:04:05,599 you know 36 00:04:09,910 --> 00:04:08,720 i'm not in it for that that's for sure 37 00:04:12,710 --> 00:04:09,920 although 38 00:04:16,229 --> 00:04:12,720 i wouldn't turn it down 39 00:04:19,670 --> 00:04:16,239 so give me them freaking 40 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:19,680 super chats damn it 41 00:04:24,790 --> 00:04:21,450 now 42 00:04:26,710 --> 00:04:24,800 [Laughter] 43 00:04:28,790 --> 00:04:26,720 and my internet is super low for some 44 00:04:31,270 --> 00:04:28,800 reason even though it's 45 00:04:33,990 --> 00:04:31,280 plugged in direct so 46 00:04:37,270 --> 00:04:34,000 that's pretty stupid but 47 00:04:42,710 --> 00:04:40,390 so thanks everybody for joining me today 48 00:04:46,310 --> 00:04:42,720 how much do i need oh man 49 00:04:49,030 --> 00:04:46,320 give me a thousand dollar super chat 50 00:04:51,030 --> 00:04:49,040 that would be great 51 00:04:53,189 --> 00:04:51,040 if every one of you gave me that 52 00:04:54,150 --> 00:04:53,199 let's see we got 16 people in here i'd 53 00:04:56,629 --> 00:04:54,160 get 54 00:04:58,200 --> 00:04:56,639 man that'd be a great day 55 00:05:01,110 --> 00:04:58,210 that'd be a great day 56 00:05:02,870 --> 00:05:01,120 [Laughter] 57 00:05:04,550 --> 00:05:02,880 um 58 00:05:05,909 --> 00:05:04,560 but yeah thank you so much for joining 59 00:05:08,230 --> 00:05:05,919 me everybody 60 00:05:09,270 --> 00:05:08,240 for coming here today you know i don't 61 00:05:12,710 --> 00:05:09,280 know what's 62 00:05:15,590 --> 00:05:12,720 uh kind of come over me today but um 63 00:05:17,749 --> 00:05:15,600 i wanted to actually because 64 00:05:19,189 --> 00:05:17,759 i want to actually tell 65 00:05:21,749 --> 00:05:19,199 um 66 00:05:23,189 --> 00:05:21,759 do a little bit of a detour and give you 67 00:05:25,189 --> 00:05:23,199 my 68 00:05:27,830 --> 00:05:25,199 um experience 69 00:05:30,550 --> 00:05:27,840 and and why i'm here 70 00:05:32,469 --> 00:05:30,560 you know what i mean um i think that 71 00:05:35,189 --> 00:05:32,479 would be 72 00:05:38,230 --> 00:05:35,199 pretty good to do um so i'm gonna do 73 00:05:44,310 --> 00:05:40,230 oh maybe i gotta 74 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:50,390 i think you're out of focus robert 75 00:05:54,230 --> 00:05:52,629 i don't know hopefully i'm not blurry 76 00:05:56,390 --> 00:05:54,240 um 77 00:05:57,670 --> 00:05:56,400 yeah a little blurry huh 78 00:05:59,590 --> 00:05:57,680 well 79 00:06:02,309 --> 00:05:59,600 what are you gonna do 80 00:06:04,230 --> 00:06:02,319 what are you freaking gonna do 81 00:06:06,469 --> 00:06:04,240 a little blurry 82 00:06:09,830 --> 00:06:06,479 uh you guys have to maybe i'll close out 83 00:06:12,710 --> 00:06:09,840 these different internet windows 84 00:06:14,550 --> 00:06:12,720 maybe they're taking up too much juice 85 00:06:19,990 --> 00:06:14,560 you know 86 00:06:25,990 --> 00:06:22,469 boy 87 00:06:59,510 --> 00:06:30,390 well let me actually try to 88 00:07:05,270 --> 00:07:02,629 is that better 89 00:07:09,110 --> 00:07:07,110 hopefully 90 00:07:11,749 --> 00:07:09,120 oh yeah so 91 00:07:14,309 --> 00:07:11,759 um yeah so like i said i just wanted to 92 00:07:15,350 --> 00:07:14,319 actually kind of give you 93 00:07:17,430 --> 00:07:15,360 um 94 00:07:19,189 --> 00:07:17,440 kind of the rundown on 95 00:07:21,830 --> 00:07:19,199 why i'm here doing what i'm doing 96 00:07:24,469 --> 00:07:21,840 because you know i do 97 00:07:34,790 --> 00:07:24,479 a lot of shows and i do actually a lot 98 00:07:38,870 --> 00:07:36,550 so 99 00:07:40,710 --> 00:07:38,880 yeah i don't know i might just have 100 00:07:41,830 --> 00:07:40,720 blurry internet 101 00:07:43,589 --> 00:07:41,840 sorry about that i should probably 102 00:07:45,110 --> 00:07:43,599 restart the router but it's too late now 103 00:07:46,070 --> 00:07:45,120 hopefully it picks up and gets a little 104 00:07:47,430 --> 00:07:46,080 better 105 00:07:49,189 --> 00:07:47,440 um 106 00:07:51,350 --> 00:07:49,199 so 107 00:07:53,270 --> 00:07:51,360 it was 108 00:07:55,350 --> 00:07:53,280 there's kind of a lot to it i feel like 109 00:07:58,390 --> 00:07:55,360 there there is my story that i guess 110 00:08:03,029 --> 00:07:58,400 that is and why i'm here it all started 111 00:08:05,110 --> 00:08:03,039 in december of i want to say yeah 2019 112 00:08:06,230 --> 00:08:05,120 and i had a job that i was at for five 113 00:08:08,469 --> 00:08:06,240 years 114 00:08:11,270 --> 00:08:08,479 um i was doing pretty well at it 115 00:08:15,510 --> 00:08:13,430 um definitely uh 116 00:08:17,029 --> 00:08:15,520 heavily relied upon 117 00:08:19,350 --> 00:08:17,039 and 118 00:08:20,869 --> 00:08:19,360 made a transition to an even more 119 00:08:22,869 --> 00:08:20,879 challenging 120 00:08:25,430 --> 00:08:22,879 job at that company 121 00:08:30,790 --> 00:08:27,350 i was pretty nervous about it but i 122 00:08:33,670 --> 00:08:30,800 wound up doing really well at that too 123 00:08:35,269 --> 00:08:33,680 well it came to 124 00:08:36,870 --> 00:08:35,279 the end of the year this christmas party 125 00:08:39,909 --> 00:08:36,880 whatever 126 00:08:42,389 --> 00:08:39,919 and i wound up getting let go and the 127 00:08:43,909 --> 00:08:42,399 gist of it is because i stuck my neck 128 00:08:45,670 --> 00:08:43,919 out to get 129 00:08:47,190 --> 00:08:45,680 a group of guys 130 00:08:50,150 --> 00:08:47,200 in the office 131 00:08:51,509 --> 00:08:50,160 um some recognition 132 00:08:54,550 --> 00:08:51,519 and which 133 00:08:56,150 --> 00:08:54,560 you know those guys never have for 134 00:08:57,910 --> 00:08:56,160 you know the years i've been there and 135 00:09:00,230 --> 00:08:57,920 that's where i came from so 136 00:09:02,070 --> 00:09:00,240 um it was important to me that 137 00:09:02,949 --> 00:09:02,080 you know they got that recognition and i 138 00:09:04,550 --> 00:09:02,959 did that 139 00:09:06,630 --> 00:09:04,560 one thing led to another and i got let 140 00:09:09,030 --> 00:09:06,640 go 141 00:09:11,030 --> 00:09:09,040 so after that 142 00:09:12,790 --> 00:09:11,040 you know and coronavirus is kind of just 143 00:09:14,150 --> 00:09:12,800 starting at that time 144 00:09:16,630 --> 00:09:14,160 and people aren't really sure what's 145 00:09:21,350 --> 00:09:18,389 and you know losing the job and 146 00:09:25,190 --> 00:09:22,630 um 147 00:09:27,269 --> 00:09:25,200 you know things were getting 148 00:09:29,990 --> 00:09:27,279 kind of crazy uh worrying about what was 149 00:09:32,070 --> 00:09:30,000 going on uh with our life my my wife and 150 00:09:33,430 --> 00:09:32,080 i's life and what that was gonna look 151 00:09:39,910 --> 00:09:33,440 like 152 00:09:44,870 --> 00:09:42,790 you know as uh time progresses my wife 153 00:09:46,310 --> 00:09:44,880 and i decided that 154 00:09:48,070 --> 00:09:46,320 you know we had already been thinking 155 00:09:49,990 --> 00:09:48,080 about getting a new house or getting a 156 00:09:52,550 --> 00:09:50,000 house because we were living in a duplex 157 00:09:55,350 --> 00:09:52,560 two-bedroom duplex we had two dogs and a 158 00:09:57,829 --> 00:09:55,360 cat we had still still have them but it 159 00:09:59,190 --> 00:09:57,839 was a little small for us to be quite 160 00:10:02,389 --> 00:09:59,200 honest with you 161 00:10:06,550 --> 00:10:02,399 um so we just needed some more room so 162 00:10:10,790 --> 00:10:06,560 um as 2021 on we wound up getting our 163 00:10:14,630 --> 00:10:12,550 during this whole time from december 2 164 00:10:17,430 --> 00:10:14,640 march i was preparing 165 00:10:21,430 --> 00:10:17,440 what was going to be my first like 166 00:10:24,069 --> 00:10:21,440 solo artist solo musician release 167 00:10:26,389 --> 00:10:24,079 um i've been working on this handful of 168 00:10:27,590 --> 00:10:26,399 songs recording them working pretty hard 169 00:10:30,389 --> 00:10:27,600 on them 170 00:10:33,269 --> 00:10:30,399 um and i had this one venue picked out 171 00:10:35,030 --> 00:10:33,279 that i wanted to do the release at too 172 00:10:37,590 --> 00:10:35,040 so much so that i would 173 00:10:39,509 --> 00:10:37,600 going every wednesday to do open mics to 174 00:10:40,710 --> 00:10:39,519 rehearse the songs i wrote the songs at 175 00:10:44,710 --> 00:10:40,720 the open mic 176 00:10:48,150 --> 00:10:44,720 you know years 177 00:10:50,389 --> 00:10:48,160 of course and 178 00:10:52,949 --> 00:10:50,399 what i mean by that is 179 00:10:54,710 --> 00:10:52,959 you know i was playing the bigger stages 180 00:10:56,710 --> 00:10:54,720 in the city 181 00:10:58,470 --> 00:10:56,720 um on a constant basis had all the 182 00:11:00,069 --> 00:10:58,480 contacts and i just wanted a different 183 00:11:01,990 --> 00:11:00,079 vibe so i was going to this open mic 184 00:11:04,630 --> 00:11:02,000 where none of the typical scene people 185 00:11:06,389 --> 00:11:04,640 were at this place was like uh 186 00:11:09,829 --> 00:11:06,399 kind of like what i think of as like a 187 00:11:12,069 --> 00:11:09,839 brooklyn 60s coffee shop type vibe 188 00:11:13,670 --> 00:11:12,079 uh this guy who ran it jim linnaman is 189 00:11:16,310 --> 00:11:13,680 an awesome guy 190 00:11:18,630 --> 00:11:16,320 um and has so many great stories to tell 191 00:11:21,190 --> 00:11:18,640 about the old hippie days and everything 192 00:11:23,110 --> 00:11:21,200 and he you know has posters of bob dylan 193 00:11:24,790 --> 00:11:23,120 on the wall that kind of stuff so that 194 00:11:26,550 --> 00:11:24,800 was just the vibe that i was in at the 195 00:11:28,389 --> 00:11:26,560 time especially after losing my job and 196 00:11:30,870 --> 00:11:28,399 everything um 197 00:11:32,069 --> 00:11:30,880 writing the music and everything was 198 00:11:34,389 --> 00:11:32,079 you know kind of a release and a 199 00:11:35,750 --> 00:11:34,399 meditation for me and a way for me to 200 00:11:40,829 --> 00:11:35,760 work through that 201 00:11:44,470 --> 00:11:42,470 and 202 00:11:46,230 --> 00:11:44,480 as much comes 203 00:11:48,949 --> 00:11:46,240 we're in the house everything's going 204 00:11:51,110 --> 00:11:48,959 fine the album's finished it's recorded 205 00:11:54,470 --> 00:11:51,120 throughout all my years of playing music 206 00:11:55,590 --> 00:11:54,480 i've never released uh it on a vinyl 207 00:11:58,790 --> 00:11:55,600 record 208 00:12:00,150 --> 00:11:58,800 and it was important for me to do that 209 00:12:01,910 --> 00:12:00,160 you know 210 00:12:04,389 --> 00:12:01,920 at least once 211 00:12:06,629 --> 00:12:04,399 and i decided that this album 212 00:12:09,030 --> 00:12:06,639 um i was gonna do that 213 00:12:12,230 --> 00:12:10,550 you know i finished the album i turned 214 00:12:14,310 --> 00:12:12,240 it in to 215 00:12:16,069 --> 00:12:14,320 uh you know the company that was making 216 00:12:17,670 --> 00:12:16,079 the actual vinyl for me and the cover 217 00:12:19,509 --> 00:12:17,680 sheet and everything and 218 00:12:21,110 --> 00:12:19,519 you know of which you put the record in 219 00:12:22,870 --> 00:12:21,120 and everything 220 00:12:24,629 --> 00:12:22,880 and it was expensive and i paid for it 221 00:12:26,230 --> 00:12:24,639 all out of my own pocket you know it's 222 00:12:28,389 --> 00:12:26,240 probably 223 00:12:31,350 --> 00:12:28,399 a couple thousand bucks and i remember 224 00:12:34,629 --> 00:12:31,360 telling my wife like can i do this 225 00:12:36,629 --> 00:12:34,639 i swear if i do this i will play shows 226 00:12:40,710 --> 00:12:36,639 until i sell all these i will not let 227 00:12:45,030 --> 00:12:43,269 um and the show was for actually i think 228 00:12:46,790 --> 00:12:45,040 it was for 4 20 229 00:12:48,790 --> 00:12:46,800 believe it or not 230 00:12:51,910 --> 00:12:48,800 april 20th 231 00:12:53,350 --> 00:12:51,920 so as the date is approaching and i'm 232 00:12:57,509 --> 00:12:53,360 you know prepared for this show and 233 00:12:59,269 --> 00:12:57,519 everything i'm feeling good about it um 234 00:13:00,710 --> 00:12:59,279 i have the vinyls everything's coming in 235 00:13:03,670 --> 00:13:00,720 on time 236 00:13:05,350 --> 00:13:03,680 they decide to close the venue because 237 00:13:07,190 --> 00:13:05,360 of coronavirus 238 00:13:08,150 --> 00:13:07,200 and it's not their fault everybody was 239 00:13:10,150 --> 00:13:08,160 closing 240 00:13:13,190 --> 00:13:10,160 all the venues were closed all the 241 00:13:15,829 --> 00:13:13,200 restaurants bars um people were 242 00:13:17,910 --> 00:13:15,839 working from home everything 243 00:13:20,710 --> 00:13:17,920 so the show that i planned and have been 244 00:13:22,949 --> 00:13:20,720 looking forward to um 245 00:13:23,829 --> 00:13:22,959 was essentially cancelled now i could 246 00:13:25,750 --> 00:13:23,839 have 247 00:13:27,110 --> 00:13:25,760 you know rescheduled it or played it by 248 00:13:29,269 --> 00:13:27,120 now but throughout that course of the 249 00:13:30,949 --> 00:13:29,279 year it was going from closed and not 250 00:13:32,150 --> 00:13:30,959 closed everybody was worried about even 251 00:13:33,910 --> 00:13:32,160 going out 252 00:13:36,870 --> 00:13:33,920 and in the end i thought it was best to 253 00:13:41,910 --> 00:13:39,350 not perform or really go out 254 00:13:44,310 --> 00:13:41,920 um that year we have older parents who 255 00:13:47,030 --> 00:13:44,320 you know weren't doing that great and 256 00:13:48,629 --> 00:13:47,040 everything uh health-wise so you know it 257 00:13:51,910 --> 00:13:48,639 just wasn't really the smartest thing to 258 00:13:59,509 --> 00:13:54,150 um 259 00:14:01,430 --> 00:13:59,519 closer to 260 00:14:02,790 --> 00:14:01,440 so that's kind of that story you know so 261 00:14:04,389 --> 00:14:02,800 to speak and 262 00:14:06,389 --> 00:14:04,399 you know i should also add that the 263 00:14:08,310 --> 00:14:06,399 december before that was the last show 264 00:14:10,550 --> 00:14:08,320 i've ever played live and i've played 265 00:14:12,470 --> 00:14:10,560 hundreds and hundreds of shows 266 00:14:14,470 --> 00:14:12,480 um and it was at a place called cactus 267 00:14:18,550 --> 00:14:14,480 club and i was solo 268 00:14:20,230 --> 00:14:18,560 and i opened for these other two groups 269 00:14:22,310 --> 00:14:20,240 and 270 00:14:24,230 --> 00:14:22,320 you know 271 00:14:26,550 --> 00:14:24,240 like life is so weird oddly enough i 272 00:14:29,189 --> 00:14:26,560 will never forget 273 00:14:31,269 --> 00:14:29,199 that show um you know it's really hard 274 00:14:33,110 --> 00:14:31,279 as a as a local artist to 275 00:14:35,509 --> 00:14:33,120 play as many shows as you do in the same 276 00:14:37,509 --> 00:14:35,519 town and get people out consistently and 277 00:14:38,629 --> 00:14:37,519 have a good audience and everything 278 00:14:40,949 --> 00:14:38,639 um 279 00:14:43,110 --> 00:14:40,959 but for this show 280 00:14:46,069 --> 00:14:43,120 the place was full 281 00:14:47,990 --> 00:14:46,079 the sound was so good i was playing you 282 00:14:50,150 --> 00:14:48,000 know solo 283 00:14:52,069 --> 00:14:50,160 and everybody was hanging on pretty much 284 00:14:53,829 --> 00:14:52,079 every word 285 00:14:55,829 --> 00:14:53,839 and loved every 286 00:14:58,629 --> 00:14:55,839 song 287 00:15:03,030 --> 00:14:58,639 it was one of the best shows maybe the 288 00:15:06,629 --> 00:15:04,710 and little did i know that that was 289 00:15:07,670 --> 00:15:06,639 gonna be my 290 00:15:11,350 --> 00:15:07,680 you know 291 00:15:13,030 --> 00:15:11,360 at least lash over for a while or i 292 00:15:14,790 --> 00:15:13,040 think it's almost two years now i've 293 00:15:16,949 --> 00:15:14,800 went without playing a show 294 00:15:18,550 --> 00:15:16,959 which for me was unheard of because i 295 00:15:21,430 --> 00:15:18,560 was playing you know at least one a 296 00:15:23,430 --> 00:15:21,440 month sometimes more than that 297 00:15:25,670 --> 00:15:23,440 for 298 00:15:29,990 --> 00:15:25,680 eight nine ten years 299 00:15:32,629 --> 00:15:31,749 that was a great show it was a beautiful 300 00:15:34,150 --> 00:15:32,639 show 301 00:15:35,509 --> 00:15:34,160 thanks for first of all let me talk 302 00:15:37,189 --> 00:15:35,519 about this i 303 00:15:40,069 --> 00:15:37,199 feel like it's been kind of pent up in 304 00:15:43,189 --> 00:15:40,079 me for a while and i just 305 00:15:44,790 --> 00:15:43,199 wanted to get it out so 306 00:15:47,670 --> 00:15:44,800 i'm not gonna get emotional i'm just 307 00:15:49,670 --> 00:15:47,680 gonna try to tell a story 308 00:15:52,069 --> 00:15:49,680 so 309 00:15:54,389 --> 00:15:52,079 that happened after that show um you 310 00:15:56,230 --> 00:15:54,399 know i said everything about the 311 00:15:57,910 --> 00:15:56,240 about the um 312 00:16:00,310 --> 00:15:57,920 recording that i was working on i wanted 313 00:16:02,790 --> 00:16:00,320 to release the recording on vinyl 314 00:16:04,550 --> 00:16:02,800 um we get the new house in march um the 315 00:16:21,030 --> 00:16:04,560 show is in april 316 00:16:24,550 --> 00:16:23,110 the coronavirus thing and now i've 317 00:16:26,310 --> 00:16:24,560 gotten to a point where i haven't played 318 00:16:28,470 --> 00:16:26,320 a show for so long 319 00:16:30,949 --> 00:16:28,480 where you know i'm just really not in 320 00:16:33,110 --> 00:16:30,959 that mentality anymore and i don't 321 00:16:34,069 --> 00:16:33,120 know that it's something i i want to do 322 00:16:37,189 --> 00:16:34,079 again 323 00:16:38,790 --> 00:16:37,199 um my life has changed a lot 324 00:16:42,550 --> 00:16:38,800 i've changed a lot 325 00:16:44,310 --> 00:16:42,560 um my wife and i have changed a lot 326 00:16:46,150 --> 00:16:44,320 and sometimes i think maybe we needed 327 00:16:48,230 --> 00:16:46,160 the coronavirus for me to break the 328 00:16:50,310 --> 00:16:48,240 usual routine i was in i mean everything 329 00:16:52,150 --> 00:16:50,320 in my life changed at that time the 330 00:16:53,430 --> 00:16:52,160 place i was living the job i was so 331 00:16:56,710 --> 00:16:53,440 familiar with 332 00:16:58,389 --> 00:16:56,720 um the routines of playing shows and and 333 00:17:00,790 --> 00:16:58,399 doing promotion and all that kind of 334 00:17:02,069 --> 00:17:00,800 stuff everything was over and it you 335 00:17:04,150 --> 00:17:02,079 know changed 336 00:17:04,949 --> 00:17:04,160 life changed for so many people at that 337 00:17:07,350 --> 00:17:04,959 time 338 00:17:09,029 --> 00:17:07,360 um but i guess i just wasn't 339 00:17:11,909 --> 00:17:09,039 prepared or knew that that was even 340 00:17:17,750 --> 00:17:13,829 um 341 00:17:19,270 --> 00:17:17,760 progressed i was in this new house i was 342 00:17:20,949 --> 00:17:19,280 closer to 343 00:17:22,549 --> 00:17:20,959 my parents and because of that i was 344 00:17:24,870 --> 00:17:22,559 able to 345 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:24,880 bowl with my father 346 00:17:26,230 --> 00:17:25,170 on 347 00:17:29,590 --> 00:17:26,240 [Music] 348 00:17:31,350 --> 00:17:29,600 his you know weekly 349 00:17:35,510 --> 00:17:31,360 league again and we have decided to do 350 00:17:40,390 --> 00:17:38,150 so as the uh bowling uh first week of 351 00:17:43,110 --> 00:17:40,400 bowling approaches um coronavirus is 352 00:17:45,430 --> 00:17:43,120 still raging there's no vaccine 353 00:17:47,669 --> 00:17:45,440 um people are you know some people are 354 00:17:51,350 --> 00:17:47,679 taking it serious some people 355 00:17:53,750 --> 00:17:51,360 aren't so much and for their own reasons 356 00:17:56,230 --> 00:17:53,760 i think you know it was a it's still a 357 00:17:58,310 --> 00:17:56,240 hard thing to fathom for a lot of people 358 00:18:01,590 --> 00:17:58,320 um and at that time 359 00:18:03,750 --> 00:18:01,600 it was you know hard to fathom for 360 00:18:06,470 --> 00:18:03,760 myself and and my father in different 361 00:18:11,669 --> 00:18:09,190 um for him you know he's a he's an older 362 00:18:14,390 --> 00:18:11,679 guy and bowling is 363 00:18:15,750 --> 00:18:14,400 like music was for me you know 364 00:18:17,669 --> 00:18:15,760 um 365 00:18:19,830 --> 00:18:17,679 he did it 366 00:18:22,230 --> 00:18:19,840 for a long time and that he found joy 367 00:18:23,830 --> 00:18:22,240 and happiness and a vacation from life 368 00:18:24,549 --> 00:18:23,840 at the bowling alleys every week you 369 00:18:26,470 --> 00:18:24,559 know 370 00:18:27,909 --> 00:18:26,480 and so 371 00:18:29,270 --> 00:18:27,919 as the week approached i told him i 372 00:18:30,230 --> 00:18:29,280 would still do it if people were wearing 373 00:18:33,750 --> 00:18:30,240 masks 374 00:18:36,230 --> 00:18:33,760 everybody's like older and they're all 375 00:18:38,310 --> 00:18:36,240 crammed into this bowling alley i'm like 376 00:18:40,710 --> 00:18:38,320 bad like 377 00:18:43,350 --> 00:18:40,720 i can't do that 378 00:18:46,870 --> 00:18:43,360 you know i can't i can't do it 379 00:18:49,270 --> 00:18:46,880 um and he got really frustrated 380 00:18:51,909 --> 00:18:49,280 and 381 00:18:53,510 --> 00:18:51,919 you know it was 382 00:18:57,270 --> 00:18:53,520 i don't think he realized it but it was 383 00:18:59,590 --> 00:18:57,280 directed towards me um but really he was 384 00:19:05,110 --> 00:19:01,909 disappointed 385 00:19:07,350 --> 00:19:05,120 you know that bowling was basically over 386 00:19:09,830 --> 00:19:07,360 because of this coronavirus 387 00:19:11,990 --> 00:19:09,840 and you know it's interesting because i 388 00:19:15,029 --> 00:19:12,000 just had my life completely and because 389 00:19:16,549 --> 00:19:15,039 of coronavirus months earlier 390 00:19:17,830 --> 00:19:16,559 you know 391 00:19:19,270 --> 00:19:17,840 and now the same thing was kind of 392 00:19:22,630 --> 00:19:19,280 happening to him 393 00:19:27,029 --> 00:19:22,640 and unfortunately i was just you know 394 00:19:27,039 --> 00:19:31,190 so 395 00:19:35,029 --> 00:19:32,870 you know it wasn't pretty it wasn't a 396 00:19:36,870 --> 00:19:35,039 pretty sight and the next day 397 00:19:38,950 --> 00:19:36,880 you know um 398 00:19:43,029 --> 00:19:38,960 i'm trying to talk with him and we're 399 00:19:45,830 --> 00:19:44,150 and 400 00:19:47,909 --> 00:19:45,840 you know which is weird because we've 401 00:19:49,430 --> 00:19:47,919 never done that with and and that's not 402 00:19:52,470 --> 00:19:49,440 our relationship we never do that kind 403 00:19:54,310 --> 00:19:52,480 of stuff 404 00:19:56,549 --> 00:19:54,320 so right now i'm going to pause and i'm 405 00:19:59,110 --> 00:19:56,559 going to go back two years 406 00:20:06,549 --> 00:20:02,710 to a dream i had and in this dream 407 00:20:09,350 --> 00:20:06,559 i'm arguing with my father 408 00:20:10,870 --> 00:20:09,360 it it gets pretty nasty in the dream 409 00:20:13,029 --> 00:20:10,880 like i remember 410 00:20:15,110 --> 00:20:13,039 like it was it either got physical or 411 00:20:17,830 --> 00:20:15,120 was gonna get physical it was just a 412 00:20:21,430 --> 00:20:17,840 nasty nasty dream and i remember waking 413 00:20:24,070 --> 00:20:21,440 up and you know even being in the 414 00:20:26,070 --> 00:20:24,080 like entering the parking lot at the job 415 00:20:28,549 --> 00:20:26,080 i was at at the time thinking about that 416 00:20:29,350 --> 00:20:28,559 dream like man that was crazy why would 417 00:20:32,870 --> 00:20:29,360 that 418 00:20:34,310 --> 00:20:32,880 in real life 419 00:20:35,990 --> 00:20:34,320 and all throughout the day the dream 420 00:20:38,310 --> 00:20:36,000 stuck with me 421 00:20:39,590 --> 00:20:38,320 you know just like that feeling you get 422 00:20:41,669 --> 00:20:39,600 if you've had a dream like that which 423 00:20:43,750 --> 00:20:41,679 i'm sure you've had where the emotions 424 00:20:44,789 --> 00:20:43,760 of the dream just linger and stay with 425 00:20:47,029 --> 00:20:44,799 you 426 00:20:49,669 --> 00:20:47,039 um and that's what was happening with me 427 00:20:52,549 --> 00:20:49,679 all day 428 00:20:55,029 --> 00:20:52,559 and finally it went away 429 00:20:58,950 --> 00:20:55,039 you know and i kind of left it uh 430 00:20:59,990 --> 00:20:58,960 confused and and didn't understand it 431 00:21:02,549 --> 00:21:00,000 so 432 00:21:04,710 --> 00:21:02,559 fast forwarding back to i'm arguing with 433 00:21:06,710 --> 00:21:04,720 my father the next day after you know i 434 00:21:09,430 --> 00:21:06,720 tell them i can't bowl and all that kind 435 00:21:17,270 --> 00:21:11,750 and this is not in person this is like 436 00:21:21,350 --> 00:21:19,190 you know it says some pretty nasty 437 00:21:23,750 --> 00:21:21,360 things were said i'm just gonna say that 438 00:21:25,270 --> 00:21:23,760 and i don't blame him 439 00:21:27,190 --> 00:21:25,280 and 440 00:21:28,710 --> 00:21:27,200 hope he doesn't blame me for anything i 441 00:21:30,549 --> 00:21:28,720 think it was just unprecedented 442 00:21:33,590 --> 00:21:30,559 situation we do love each other and 443 00:21:37,190 --> 00:21:35,110 so anyways 444 00:21:39,110 --> 00:21:37,200 um 445 00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:39,120 i forget who it was but somebody decided 446 00:21:44,470 --> 00:21:41,600 to like a phone call would be a better 447 00:21:46,149 --> 00:21:44,480 idea 448 00:21:47,750 --> 00:21:46,159 right here i'm going to pause again i 449 00:21:50,870 --> 00:21:47,760 know this is complicated but just stay 450 00:21:55,190 --> 00:21:50,880 with me i'm going to pause again 451 00:21:57,750 --> 00:21:55,200 do a couple days before uh this happened 452 00:21:59,430 --> 00:21:57,760 i'm outside smoking a cigarette outside 453 00:22:02,470 --> 00:21:59,440 of the house 454 00:22:03,909 --> 00:22:02,480 and nothing really you know nothing 455 00:22:05,510 --> 00:22:03,919 interesting 456 00:22:07,830 --> 00:22:05,520 just 457 00:22:09,510 --> 00:22:07,840 doing my thing out there take the dogs 458 00:22:11,430 --> 00:22:09,520 out or whatever 459 00:22:13,430 --> 00:22:11,440 i turn around to go back in the house 460 00:22:14,950 --> 00:22:13,440 and for whatever reason i look up like 461 00:22:16,070 --> 00:22:14,960 above the house 462 00:22:17,590 --> 00:22:16,080 and 463 00:22:19,430 --> 00:22:17,600 it's hard for me to describe what it 464 00:22:22,310 --> 00:22:19,440 looked like but it was like a sideways 465 00:22:24,470 --> 00:22:22,320 teardrop with a little bit of a 466 00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:24,480 curve towards the tail 467 00:22:28,710 --> 00:22:27,760 that literally um came in 468 00:22:33,750 --> 00:22:28,720 like 469 00:22:35,350 --> 00:22:33,760 zoomed in and out of 470 00:22:37,110 --> 00:22:35,360 right in front of me it didn't come from 471 00:22:39,110 --> 00:22:37,120 the sky it didn't come from the ground 472 00:22:43,350 --> 00:22:39,120 it came in and out of 473 00:22:46,549 --> 00:22:43,360 this atmosphere or dimension or whatever 474 00:22:49,750 --> 00:22:46,559 um it was a solid wipe with a border 475 00:22:51,830 --> 00:22:49,760 that seemed kind of alive 476 00:22:54,630 --> 00:22:51,840 that was in constant motion the white 477 00:22:57,270 --> 00:22:54,640 was like a material like a real dense 478 00:22:59,590 --> 00:22:57,280 thick foggy white 479 00:23:01,270 --> 00:22:59,600 it was um 480 00:23:03,830 --> 00:23:01,280 it was like that 481 00:23:05,669 --> 00:23:03,840 and it came in and it came out 482 00:23:06,789 --> 00:23:05,679 and i saw it i walked in the house and 483 00:23:09,590 --> 00:23:06,799 i'm thinking like wow that was 484 00:23:10,870 --> 00:23:09,600 incredible but um 485 00:23:14,470 --> 00:23:10,880 i pretty much 486 00:23:19,190 --> 00:23:16,950 never seen anything like that before 487 00:23:21,750 --> 00:23:19,200 it must have been a crazy 488 00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:21,760 shooting star meteor even though like it 489 00:23:25,350 --> 00:23:23,039 was way 490 00:23:27,909 --> 00:23:25,360 my house is like 40 feet high and it 491 00:23:30,310 --> 00:23:27,919 didn't seem like it was much higher 492 00:23:32,470 --> 00:23:30,320 than that you know so either it was 493 00:23:35,270 --> 00:23:32,480 really big and far away or you know 494 00:23:37,029 --> 00:23:35,280 smaller and really close but 495 00:23:38,950 --> 00:23:37,039 you know at arm's length i see that a 496 00:23:41,029 --> 00:23:38,960 lot in the blue book reports right arms 497 00:23:42,789 --> 00:23:41,039 length it was probably the 498 00:23:44,950 --> 00:23:42,799 it sounds cliche after seeing it so many 499 00:23:47,029 --> 00:23:44,960 times but it was probably like 500 00:23:48,549 --> 00:23:47,039 you know i don't know what shape 501 00:23:50,789 --> 00:23:48,559 to say it looked like but it was about 502 00:23:51,990 --> 00:23:50,799 like the size of a football or something 503 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:52,000 like that 504 00:23:53,430 --> 00:23:52,330 um 505 00:23:54,789 --> 00:23:53,440 [Music] 506 00:23:56,710 --> 00:23:54,799 as far as 507 00:23:59,430 --> 00:23:56,720 you know how it the size of it and how 508 00:24:02,470 --> 00:24:00,149 so 509 00:24:04,230 --> 00:24:02,480 uh that happens 510 00:24:05,590 --> 00:24:04,240 fast forward a couple days argument with 511 00:24:08,390 --> 00:24:05,600 my father 512 00:24:10,470 --> 00:24:08,400 and we decided to have a 513 00:24:12,470 --> 00:24:10,480 uh phone conversation 514 00:24:14,149 --> 00:24:12,480 uh about us 515 00:24:15,029 --> 00:24:14,159 about everything see if that can go 516 00:24:20,310 --> 00:24:15,039 better 517 00:24:22,390 --> 00:24:20,320 lot worse and as we're arguing 518 00:24:24,950 --> 00:24:22,400 over the phone now 519 00:24:29,110 --> 00:24:26,870 i feel like i'm in like almost like an 520 00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:29,120 autopilot like this stuff is coming out 521 00:24:33,269 --> 00:24:31,120 of me and i'm saying this stuff and i'm 522 00:24:34,630 --> 00:24:33,279 watching it happen like outside of my 523 00:24:38,070 --> 00:24:34,640 body 524 00:24:40,230 --> 00:24:38,080 like watching things 525 00:24:42,870 --> 00:24:40,240 happen like i have no say in it like 526 00:24:50,950 --> 00:24:42,880 it's been scripted or it was going to 527 00:24:58,070 --> 00:24:51,750 and 528 00:25:02,310 --> 00:24:59,750 i don't know i'm a terrible i'm a 529 00:25:04,310 --> 00:25:02,320 terrible drawer 530 00:25:09,269 --> 00:25:04,320 but uh i'll i'll try to do it at some 531 00:25:12,549 --> 00:25:11,110 and as this happens and and we're right 532 00:25:18,390 --> 00:25:12,559 in the middle of it i'm thinking like 533 00:25:22,549 --> 00:25:20,149 you know that dream from two years ago 534 00:25:27,590 --> 00:25:22,559 just struck me like a ton of bricks and 535 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,470 you know 536 00:25:34,950 --> 00:25:32,950 so anyways we get through that and 537 00:25:38,230 --> 00:25:34,960 either that night or the day after a 538 00:25:40,549 --> 00:25:38,240 couple days after whatever 539 00:25:42,390 --> 00:25:40,559 i'm outside again smoking a cigarette 540 00:25:43,990 --> 00:25:42,400 this time instead of 541 00:25:46,870 --> 00:25:44,000 you know about to walk into the house 542 00:25:49,269 --> 00:25:46,880 i'm looking towards the garage 543 00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:49,279 you know just just looking no nothing 544 00:25:54,789 --> 00:25:50,559 fancy 545 00:25:59,269 --> 00:25:57,190 you know this is probably the weirdest 546 00:26:01,510 --> 00:25:59,279 part of all of it to me like just think 547 00:26:03,190 --> 00:26:01,520 of the physical aspect of this other 548 00:26:06,149 --> 00:26:03,200 than like the dream coming true around 549 00:26:08,230 --> 00:26:06,159 these sightings these two like sandwich 550 00:26:12,310 --> 00:26:08,240 sightings 551 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,390 it's like a straight sharp like 552 00:26:20,149 --> 00:26:18,070 and i knew 553 00:26:21,190 --> 00:26:20,159 for whatever reason that if i kept 554 00:26:22,710 --> 00:26:21,200 looking 555 00:26:23,750 --> 00:26:22,720 in that direction where that light was 556 00:26:25,909 --> 00:26:23,760 going 557 00:26:28,950 --> 00:26:25,919 over my shoulder i was gonna see the 558 00:26:30,390 --> 00:26:28,960 same thing i saw a couple days earlier 559 00:26:34,149 --> 00:26:30,400 sure enough 560 00:26:36,390 --> 00:26:34,159 here it comes the same exact texture 561 00:26:39,269 --> 00:26:36,400 everything fluid motion 562 00:26:40,549 --> 00:26:39,279 um like it wasn't like a stagnant thing 563 00:26:43,190 --> 00:26:40,559 it was like 564 00:26:46,070 --> 00:26:43,200 whatever it was made of was was moving 565 00:26:49,269 --> 00:26:46,080 and there was a border around it 566 00:26:50,789 --> 00:26:49,279 that was moving 567 00:26:53,110 --> 00:26:50,799 and this was like the size of a 568 00:26:54,789 --> 00:26:53,120 basketball and i was about 13 feet away 569 00:26:58,870 --> 00:26:54,799 from my garage and it seemed like it was 570 00:27:03,029 --> 00:27:01,350 and went like on the other side of it 571 00:27:07,350 --> 00:27:03,039 and disappeared but there was nothing 572 00:27:13,029 --> 00:27:10,230 so you know i have these two sightings 573 00:27:14,470 --> 00:27:13,039 you know in the middle of it um 574 00:27:19,110 --> 00:27:14,480 you know the argument and the dream 575 00:27:22,389 --> 00:27:20,789 so 576 00:27:23,909 --> 00:27:22,399 that was just pure shocking for me and 577 00:27:26,389 --> 00:27:23,919 ever since then like 578 00:27:28,470 --> 00:27:26,399 my paradigm was shifted 579 00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:28,480 onto logical shock 580 00:27:33,269 --> 00:27:30,480 at that time 581 00:27:35,190 --> 00:27:33,279 trying to figure out how all this is 582 00:27:37,430 --> 00:27:35,200 happening together why am i seeing this 583 00:27:40,149 --> 00:27:37,440 stuff why is this happening what's this 584 00:27:42,710 --> 00:27:40,159 cove the thing with my dad like 585 00:27:44,950 --> 00:27:42,720 the house like the show's canceled i'm 586 00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:44,960 not playing music anymore 587 00:27:53,350 --> 00:27:48,720 um it was crazy 588 00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:56,070 so 589 00:28:00,789 --> 00:27:58,389 um that happens and you know and then 590 00:28:04,470 --> 00:28:00,799 i've seen stuff a coup a few things 591 00:28:08,389 --> 00:28:06,470 uh was with my wife my wife actually 592 00:28:10,149 --> 00:28:08,399 mentioned it came 593 00:28:10,789 --> 00:28:10,159 on her way home she mentioned it there 594 00:28:13,110 --> 00:28:10,799 was 595 00:28:14,549 --> 00:28:13,120 a bunch of orbs in the sky but she you 596 00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:14,559 know isn't into this stuff she just 597 00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:16,320 wants it she says you want to see some 598 00:28:21,669 --> 00:28:18,240 weird things go outside i meet her in 599 00:28:25,830 --> 00:28:21,679 the backyard and there are these 600 00:28:29,990 --> 00:28:26,950 red 601 00:28:31,669 --> 00:28:30,000 orange amber orbs going directly over 602 00:28:33,269 --> 00:28:31,679 our house 603 00:28:36,710 --> 00:28:33,279 that wind up going up in the sky and 604 00:28:41,029 --> 00:28:38,950 so that was weird 605 00:28:42,789 --> 00:28:41,039 other than that 606 00:28:44,789 --> 00:28:42,799 and then i've seen some things just on 607 00:28:46,710 --> 00:28:44,799 my own like a bunch of white orbs 608 00:28:48,470 --> 00:28:46,720 popping out of a cloud 609 00:28:51,430 --> 00:28:48,480 one after the other 610 00:28:54,230 --> 00:28:51,440 those two i have videos of as well by 611 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,190 um 612 00:29:02,149 --> 00:29:00,149 so yeah i mean that's about it and then 613 00:29:03,110 --> 00:29:02,159 you know as far as experiences goes a 614 00:29:05,669 --> 00:29:03,120 lot 615 00:29:09,669 --> 00:29:05,679 of weird things happen that are hard to 616 00:29:11,510 --> 00:29:09,960 um 617 00:29:14,549 --> 00:29:11,520 [Music] 618 00:29:17,669 --> 00:29:14,559 like i had a owl thing happen around my 619 00:29:19,029 --> 00:29:17,679 uncle's uh passing that 620 00:29:20,789 --> 00:29:19,039 i wound up kind of having a weird 621 00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:20,799 premonition about that 622 00:29:25,750 --> 00:29:22,960 so 623 00:29:28,389 --> 00:29:25,760 yeah i've had a lot of uh 624 00:29:32,310 --> 00:29:28,399 odd dreams and i'm having odd dreams now 625 00:29:35,029 --> 00:29:32,320 too yeah but nothing like that 626 00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:35,039 involving my family 627 00:29:38,470 --> 00:29:36,720 i appreciate it shelly it's just like 628 00:29:41,350 --> 00:29:38,480 talking about it again 629 00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:41,360 brings up back the ontological shock so 630 00:29:45,350 --> 00:29:43,120 to speak like it's hard to talk about 631 00:29:46,230 --> 00:29:45,360 and not be shocked as i'm talking about 632 00:29:51,269 --> 00:29:46,240 it 633 00:29:53,510 --> 00:29:51,279 you know so once i'm not i'm i'm good so 634 00:29:55,590 --> 00:29:53,520 um and i can tell you about some of the 635 00:29:58,149 --> 00:29:55,600 dreams at some point 636 00:30:03,110 --> 00:30:01,510 i do want to and this might be hard but 637 00:30:04,870 --> 00:30:03,120 i want to 638 00:30:06,950 --> 00:30:04,880 transition 639 00:30:10,870 --> 00:30:06,960 and 640 00:30:16,389 --> 00:30:12,230 um 641 00:30:18,389 --> 00:30:16,399 and at some point yeah i can show you 642 00:30:20,070 --> 00:30:18,399 like the videos maybe you know tomorrow 643 00:30:23,269 --> 00:30:20,080 or a different day they're not the best 644 00:30:25,029 --> 00:30:23,279 videos and i hate 645 00:30:26,310 --> 00:30:25,039 you know even showing them because i 646 00:30:28,389 --> 00:30:26,320 know what's going through so many 647 00:30:31,029 --> 00:30:28,399 people's heads already i mean the the 648 00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:31,039 orb video to me is uh pretty freaking 649 00:30:37,110 --> 00:30:32,320 great 650 00:30:40,950 --> 00:30:39,909 but you know that's what it is 651 00:30:42,470 --> 00:30:40,960 and 652 00:30:44,149 --> 00:30:42,480 they're both actually 653 00:30:46,230 --> 00:30:44,159 pretty good but you know it comes down 654 00:30:48,310 --> 00:30:46,240 to the same thing like you have to 655 00:30:51,110 --> 00:30:48,320 you know be open to 656 00:30:52,950 --> 00:30:51,120 um not just 657 00:30:54,470 --> 00:30:52,960 you know seeing things that you can 658 00:30:55,830 --> 00:30:54,480 explain as 659 00:30:57,990 --> 00:30:55,840 um 660 00:31:00,710 --> 00:30:58,000 you know uh lanterns 661 00:31:03,029 --> 00:31:00,720 chinese lanterns which is uh just 662 00:31:06,149 --> 00:31:03,039 ridiculous when i show you that video at 663 00:31:11,029 --> 00:31:08,470 so yeah i've had a lot of apocalyptic 664 00:31:13,269 --> 00:31:11,039 dreams man 665 00:31:15,430 --> 00:31:13,279 definitely not so much now but yeah i've 666 00:31:17,350 --> 00:31:15,440 had a bunch of them in 667 00:31:18,549 --> 00:31:17,360 in my life 668 00:31:19,590 --> 00:31:18,559 so many 669 00:31:22,310 --> 00:31:19,600 like 670 00:31:26,149 --> 00:31:22,320 shocking apocalyptic dreams most 671 00:31:28,950 --> 00:31:27,909 but 672 00:31:32,470 --> 00:31:28,960 you know 673 00:31:37,590 --> 00:31:32,480 um i haven't had any like that 674 00:31:42,549 --> 00:31:40,870 in years to be honest 675 00:31:48,500 --> 00:31:42,559 so 676 00:31:53,509 --> 00:31:52,470 [Laughter] 677 00:31:55,029 --> 00:31:53,519 so 678 00:31:56,470 --> 00:31:55,039 i had a couple documents i wanted to 679 00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:56,480 show you 680 00:32:00,389 --> 00:31:57,600 first 681 00:32:02,310 --> 00:32:00,399 is this one 682 00:32:03,590 --> 00:32:02,320 this is 683 00:32:06,549 --> 00:32:03,600 the sighting 684 00:32:08,630 --> 00:32:06,559 of clarence kelly 685 00:32:09,909 --> 00:32:08,640 uh johnson i think 686 00:32:14,549 --> 00:32:09,919 his name is 687 00:32:17,990 --> 00:32:14,559 so i think i put the article in the uh 688 00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:18,000 description of this video it came off on 689 00:32:21,750 --> 00:32:20,240 the hill i found it 690 00:32:24,149 --> 00:32:21,760 because like christopher mellon 691 00:32:26,870 --> 00:32:24,159 retweeted or something and they had 692 00:32:28,630 --> 00:32:26,880 mentioned um a trend or at least 693 00:32:30,789 --> 00:32:28,640 sightings on the west coast of 694 00:32:32,389 --> 00:32:30,799 california one of them being this uh 695 00:32:34,310 --> 00:32:32,399 lockheed 696 00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:34,320 guy 697 00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:36,720 so you know what being back in the 50s i 698 00:32:44,310 --> 00:32:41,519 was like uh if that's true i can find it 699 00:32:45,669 --> 00:32:44,320 because you know me i'm all up in these 700 00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:45,679 decades 701 00:32:50,230 --> 00:32:47,440 so it wasn't the easiest actually to 702 00:32:52,149 --> 00:32:50,240 find though i looked up santa cruz 703 00:32:53,509 --> 00:32:52,159 i looked up san jose looked up 704 00:32:55,269 --> 00:32:53,519 california 705 00:32:57,110 --> 00:32:55,279 i'm trying to find it and i can't find 706 00:32:58,070 --> 00:32:57,120 it 707 00:32:59,590 --> 00:32:58,080 but 708 00:33:02,230 --> 00:32:59,600 because then uh you got to find a 709 00:33:04,630 --> 00:33:02,240 specific date too like december 16th 710 00:33:07,350 --> 00:33:04,640 1953 you know what i mean 711 00:33:11,669 --> 00:33:07,360 um it's not like you can just type in 712 00:33:14,549 --> 00:33:11,679 lockheed guy december 16th 1953 find it 713 00:33:15,669 --> 00:33:14,559 you know so i had to put in a little bit 714 00:33:17,430 --> 00:33:15,679 of work here 715 00:33:19,350 --> 00:33:17,440 and 716 00:33:21,110 --> 00:33:19,360 so after trying to do a couple different 717 00:33:22,950 --> 00:33:21,120 searches and and looking that way and 718 00:33:26,149 --> 00:33:22,960 not coming up with anything i was about 719 00:33:29,430 --> 00:33:26,159 to give up but i had one more idea and 720 00:33:29,780 --> 00:33:29,440 what it was was to go to 721 00:33:31,269 --> 00:33:29,790 um 722 00:33:32,789 --> 00:33:31,279 [Music] 723 00:33:35,430 --> 00:33:32,799 my website 724 00:33:37,029 --> 00:33:35,440 which is a great resource and you can go 725 00:33:39,430 --> 00:33:37,039 to 726 00:33:43,590 --> 00:33:39,440 um all sightings so i have all the blue 727 00:33:44,950 --> 00:33:43,600 book lists of all sightings from 47 to 728 00:33:47,029 --> 00:33:44,960 69 729 00:33:49,509 --> 00:33:47,039 and i'm like well i'll just go there and 730 00:33:51,029 --> 00:33:49,519 i'll look at the date and see what was 731 00:33:52,950 --> 00:33:51,039 going on 732 00:33:56,710 --> 00:33:52,960 and i go there 733 00:34:00,470 --> 00:33:56,720 to december 1953 check it out 734 00:34:02,149 --> 00:34:00,480 16th sure is shoot there it is 735 00:34:04,630 --> 00:34:02,159 there's a sighting and it even says 736 00:34:06,549 --> 00:34:04,640 lockheed personnel on it i'm like 737 00:34:10,230 --> 00:34:06,559 okay i found it 738 00:34:13,109 --> 00:34:10,240 so what city was this in the city 739 00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:13,119 was how i found it so is i don't know if 740 00:34:17,349 --> 00:34:15,280 i can even pronounce it correctly but 741 00:34:18,629 --> 00:34:17,359 it's askagoula or something we'll get to 742 00:34:23,829 --> 00:34:18,639 that 743 00:34:25,669 --> 00:34:23,839 eventually finding out the actual city 744 00:34:28,710 --> 00:34:25,679 it was in so then i could do a search 745 00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:28,720 for that and find the relevant case file 746 00:34:34,710 --> 00:34:31,760 in the archives and boom here it is 747 00:34:36,950 --> 00:34:34,720 you always don't get that lucky a lot of 748 00:34:39,109 --> 00:34:36,960 times it's hard to find 749 00:34:41,589 --> 00:34:39,119 uh specific cases like that when you're 750 00:34:43,990 --> 00:34:41,599 looking for something specific like that 751 00:34:45,829 --> 00:34:44,000 it's not always the easiest but 752 00:34:49,190 --> 00:34:45,839 i got there 753 00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:49,200 so yeah here we go 754 00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:51,520 um now there's a few documents to this 755 00:34:56,470 --> 00:34:53,040 one 756 00:34:58,550 --> 00:34:56,480 um is 757 00:35:00,550 --> 00:34:58,560 this lieutenant general of the united 758 00:35:02,550 --> 00:35:00,560 states air force deal put you might have 759 00:35:05,270 --> 00:35:02,560 even read this already by now but 760 00:35:06,790 --> 00:35:05,280 because it's been up here um to colonel 761 00:35:08,069 --> 00:35:06,800 george 762 00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:08,079 wharton biker 763 00:35:12,270 --> 00:35:10,400 commander of eight tick how many times 764 00:35:15,589 --> 00:35:12,280 we've talked about that on the show 765 00:35:18,710 --> 00:35:15,599 atic a tick right 766 00:35:20,150 --> 00:35:18,720 i'm in closing a report prepared by 767 00:35:23,589 --> 00:35:20,160 it's blacked out but we know at this 768 00:35:25,430 --> 00:35:23,599 point that it is uh clearance 769 00:35:27,510 --> 00:35:25,440 of lockheed chief engineer of lockheed 770 00:35:29,910 --> 00:35:27,520 aircraft corporation and some of his 771 00:35:32,150 --> 00:35:29,920 associates so this was a a two-part 772 00:35:33,190 --> 00:35:32,160 sighting he saw something once on his 773 00:35:35,910 --> 00:35:33,200 own 774 00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:35,920 and i'll just tell you this part is he 775 00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:37,760 was going to his vacation house 776 00:35:43,109 --> 00:35:41,280 basically with his wife and as he's 777 00:35:45,349 --> 00:35:43,119 walking up like the walkway or whatever 778 00:35:47,349 --> 00:35:45,359 he wounds up seeing 779 00:35:50,069 --> 00:35:47,359 you know this thing that he thought was 780 00:35:51,510 --> 00:35:50,079 a cloud but then it was staying put it 781 00:35:53,270 --> 00:35:51,520 was black in front of the sun he 782 00:35:55,430 --> 00:35:53,280 couldn't figure it out there were sharp 783 00:35:56,630 --> 00:35:55,440 edges to it that didn't change 784 00:36:05,190 --> 00:35:56,640 and 785 00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:05,200 where his 786 00:36:08,710 --> 00:36:06,480 um 787 00:36:11,349 --> 00:36:08,720 colleagues come in 788 00:36:13,349 --> 00:36:11,359 for the second sighting 789 00:36:15,190 --> 00:36:13,359 so some of his associates 790 00:36:17,109 --> 00:36:15,200 regarding a flag saucer incident this 791 00:36:18,230 --> 00:36:17,119 report was handed to me by lockheed 792 00:36:22,310 --> 00:36:18,240 personnel 793 00:36:28,069 --> 00:36:26,630 so this is pretty interesting 794 00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:28,079 um 795 00:36:31,430 --> 00:36:30,240 wait a minute yeah with the explanation 796 00:36:35,109 --> 00:36:31,440 that 797 00:36:37,349 --> 00:36:35,119 uh mr johnson was most reluctant 798 00:36:40,390 --> 00:36:37,359 reluctant to write the report in the 799 00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:40,400 first place then refuse to forward it on 800 00:36:44,950 --> 00:36:42,240 to you because of his belief that those 801 00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:44,960 who profess to have seen flank saucers 802 00:36:55,829 --> 00:36:52,550 logical and practical hard-headed what 803 00:36:57,990 --> 00:36:55,839 are not usually considered to be logical 804 00:36:59,589 --> 00:36:58,000 and practical hard-headed engineers 805 00:37:02,790 --> 00:36:59,599 however i thought you should have the 806 00:37:05,270 --> 00:37:02,800 report for whatever value it may be in 807 00:37:06,630 --> 00:37:05,280 your overall studies 808 00:37:08,630 --> 00:37:06,640 interesting 809 00:37:12,069 --> 00:37:08,640 so we have a lockheed 810 00:37:17,430 --> 00:37:15,589 who doesn't even want to do this 811 00:37:21,349 --> 00:37:17,440 has had these 812 00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:21,359 uh sightings still does it anyways like 813 00:37:34,470 --> 00:37:29,030 you know i mean and you add this on to 814 00:37:38,870 --> 00:37:36,790 you know uh citizens 815 00:37:41,750 --> 00:37:38,880 general citizens who have seen all these 816 00:37:46,790 --> 00:37:43,589 and they're they don't fit the cliche 817 00:37:48,710 --> 00:37:46,800 bill of uh kooky wackadoodles who just 818 00:37:50,550 --> 00:37:48,720 want flying saucers and aliens to be 819 00:37:55,109 --> 00:37:50,560 real so bad that they see them in the 820 00:37:59,670 --> 00:37:57,270 a lot of the times i would say you know 821 00:38:00,950 --> 00:37:59,680 it's hard it's impossible to say but so 822 00:38:03,589 --> 00:38:00,960 many 823 00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:03,599 times these are people that are recorded 824 00:38:07,750 --> 00:38:05,520 as reliable people 825 00:38:12,069 --> 00:38:07,760 um upstanding people 826 00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:12,079 more often than not probably 90 to 10. 827 00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:13,760 these people in blue book are reported 828 00:38:19,270 --> 00:38:16,320 as great people uh other people in the 829 00:38:21,109 --> 00:38:19,280 communities you know basically 830 00:38:22,710 --> 00:38:21,119 talk about how great and reliable they 831 00:38:24,790 --> 00:38:22,720 are and how they're not 832 00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:24,800 uh one for flights of fancy and i'm not 833 00:38:29,030 --> 00:38:27,040 making this up 834 00:38:35,430 --> 00:38:29,040 you know and you can look for it look at 835 00:38:40,390 --> 00:38:37,589 and there's so many examples of people 836 00:38:43,510 --> 00:38:40,400 that you know the world 837 00:38:46,150 --> 00:38:43,520 thinks are you know reliable 838 00:38:49,990 --> 00:38:46,160 like um you know air force pilots and 839 00:38:54,150 --> 00:38:50,000 this this guy who we use their cases you 840 00:38:58,950 --> 00:38:55,510 but that's just because they have these 841 00:39:05,750 --> 00:39:01,670 and by way you know no way shape or form 842 00:39:12,069 --> 00:39:08,630 incredible uh witnesses you know most 843 00:39:17,190 --> 00:39:14,950 it's just the ones that aren't 844 00:39:18,069 --> 00:39:17,200 that are pushed to the forefront that 845 00:39:25,270 --> 00:39:18,079 really 846 00:39:29,349 --> 00:39:27,670 interesting enclosure is made up of a 847 00:39:31,109 --> 00:39:29,359 number of reports concerning the 848 00:39:34,230 --> 00:39:31,119 sighting of a so-called flying saucer on 849 00:39:37,109 --> 00:39:34,240 the 16th of december 1953. 850 00:39:39,349 --> 00:39:37,119 uh the reports are self-explanatory only 851 00:39:41,990 --> 00:39:39,359 one copy of the map is attached 852 00:39:43,829 --> 00:39:42,000 indicating generally well this device 853 00:39:45,990 --> 00:39:43,839 was seen 854 00:39:48,550 --> 00:39:46,000 this information has not been released 855 00:39:51,270 --> 00:39:48,560 to the press but is submitted for such 856 00:39:53,190 --> 00:39:51,280 scientific purposes as your group may be 857 00:39:55,349 --> 00:39:53,200 concerned with your comments on the 858 00:39:56,550 --> 00:39:55,359 sightings reported will be very much 859 00:39:58,550 --> 00:39:56,560 appreciated 860 00:40:00,150 --> 00:39:58,560 signed lockheed aircraft corporation 861 00:40:07,829 --> 00:40:00,160 california division 862 00:40:11,910 --> 00:40:09,910 and by the way he brings up the youtube 863 00:40:13,990 --> 00:40:11,920 program he felt this clearance guy was 864 00:40:16,630 --> 00:40:14,000 you know 865 00:40:19,430 --> 00:40:16,640 the u2 guy 866 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,710 you know there you go 867 00:40:28,390 --> 00:40:24,790 so this is kind of explaining his first 868 00:40:30,870 --> 00:40:28,400 sighting um december 16th 1953 my wife 869 00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:30,880 and i went out to the ranch 870 00:40:33,829 --> 00:40:31,920 um 871 00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:33,839 agura there it is and by the way you can 872 00:40:37,510 --> 00:40:36,160 go on my website and 873 00:40:39,510 --> 00:40:37,520 witness 874 00:40:41,270 --> 00:40:39,520 and that's like the last post i have are 875 00:40:48,150 --> 00:40:41,280 these actual files so you can get them 876 00:40:52,309 --> 00:40:50,390 if you you know want to take time into 877 00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:52,319 reading these more thoroughly as you 878 00:40:56,390 --> 00:40:54,640 know i'm not gonna 879 00:40:58,069 --> 00:40:56,400 go through 880 00:41:01,750 --> 00:40:58,079 that and do that i kind of gave you a 881 00:41:03,750 --> 00:41:01,760 synopsis with the wife and how that went 882 00:41:05,670 --> 00:41:03,760 interesting here the hill article 883 00:41:09,030 --> 00:41:05,680 actually did a good job as far as 884 00:41:10,710 --> 00:41:09,040 accuracy as quoting the story 885 00:41:13,430 --> 00:41:10,720 they mentioned the hovering and how it 886 00:41:15,270 --> 00:41:13,440 was explained in extreme detail and 887 00:41:17,430 --> 00:41:15,280 you know when i read this 888 00:41:20,550 --> 00:41:17,440 yeah totally 889 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,230 even did a drawing 890 00:41:29,670 --> 00:41:27,030 pretty cool uh this part is weird is 891 00:41:31,109 --> 00:41:29,680 like those boomerang flying wing reports 892 00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:31,119 which are 893 00:41:36,309 --> 00:41:32,800 uh not 894 00:41:41,349 --> 00:41:39,510 um kenneth arnold's sighting was 895 00:41:43,990 --> 00:41:41,359 you know he described it somewhat like 896 00:41:47,750 --> 00:41:46,150 um there was a sighting in australia i 897 00:41:49,670 --> 00:41:47,760 was looking at not too long ago that was 898 00:41:51,670 --> 00:41:49,680 described somewhat like this 899 00:41:52,870 --> 00:41:51,680 when these are decades apart 900 00:41:57,589 --> 00:41:52,880 as well 901 00:41:57,599 --> 00:42:03,990 very interesting 902 00:42:09,589 --> 00:42:07,270 so this is the other part of the citing 903 00:42:11,910 --> 00:42:09,599 his second signing which this guy was 904 00:42:13,990 --> 00:42:11,920 just getting bombarded by the way 905 00:42:16,630 --> 00:42:14,000 um he says on wednesday just 906 00:42:20,230 --> 00:42:16,640 oh you wanted a different voice 907 00:42:23,270 --> 00:42:20,240 on wednesday december 16 1953 908 00:42:27,589 --> 00:42:23,280 in a test flight of a navy super 909 00:42:30,390 --> 00:42:27,599 constellation wv2 taking off at 4 29 p.m 910 00:42:33,270 --> 00:42:30,400 the flight crew consisted of pilot 911 00:42:39,510 --> 00:42:33,280 co-pilot flight test engineer now all of 912 00:42:44,710 --> 00:42:41,990 i can't keep it specific 913 00:42:47,349 --> 00:42:44,720 or consistent so we cli 914 00:42:55,190 --> 00:42:47,359 we climbed out towards it no see now i'm 915 00:42:59,670 --> 00:42:57,349 we climbed down towards the ocean 916 00:43:02,309 --> 00:42:59,680 leveled off at 10 000 feet for a short 917 00:43:04,390 --> 00:43:02,319 test after completing this test to turn 918 00:43:07,109 --> 00:43:04,400 the controls over to me and i started 919 00:43:09,430 --> 00:43:07,119 climbing to our next test 920 00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:09,440 altitude of 20 000 feet i climbed 921 00:43:15,750 --> 00:43:12,960 through a very thin scattered overcast 922 00:43:18,309 --> 00:43:15,760 somewhere around fourteen thousand feet 923 00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:18,319 avoided a couple of small clouds and 924 00:43:27,510 --> 00:43:20,400 continued to climb towards twenty 925 00:43:33,990 --> 00:43:30,950 somewhere between 15 and 20 000 feet 926 00:43:35,190 --> 00:43:34,000 said uh to me look out there's a flying 927 00:43:37,510 --> 00:43:35,200 saucer 928 00:43:39,349 --> 00:43:37,520 i looked at the windshield towards uh 929 00:43:41,670 --> 00:43:39,359 where roy was 930 00:43:43,829 --> 00:43:41,680 and where he was pointing and saw some 931 00:43:48,309 --> 00:43:43,839 sort of an object approximately the 932 00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:50,470 i made a slight turn ahead right towards 933 00:43:55,430 --> 00:43:52,560 the object and i mean you can read this 934 00:43:57,670 --> 00:43:55,440 for yourself so it gets pretty pretty 935 00:43:58,950 --> 00:43:57,680 intense it he actually goes towards it 936 00:43:59,910 --> 00:43:58,960 after it 937 00:44:01,430 --> 00:43:59,920 and 938 00:44:02,710 --> 00:44:01,440 it 939 00:44:06,230 --> 00:44:02,720 you know just like so many of these 940 00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:11,750 they don't stand a chance 941 00:44:15,589 --> 00:44:13,349 you know and you know he tries to 942 00:44:17,750 --> 00:44:15,599 explain it away in his head like most of 943 00:44:19,349 --> 00:44:17,760 us do when we see this stuff like i just 944 00:44:21,190 --> 00:44:19,359 told you my story where i was trying to 945 00:44:22,630 --> 00:44:21,200 explain the thing away 946 00:44:25,270 --> 00:44:22,640 um 947 00:44:26,550 --> 00:44:25,280 you know he thought it was a cloud 948 00:44:29,510 --> 00:44:26,560 but 949 00:44:32,069 --> 00:44:29,520 it had two definite sharp edges in 950 00:44:34,710 --> 00:44:32,079 appearance stayed constant it looked to 951 00:44:37,270 --> 00:44:34,720 me like i was fine right directly 952 00:44:39,670 --> 00:44:37,280 towards and at 953 00:44:42,470 --> 00:44:39,680 with the same elevation 954 00:44:45,589 --> 00:44:42,480 as a very large flying wing airplane 955 00:44:47,589 --> 00:44:45,599 i would estimate at this time that i was 956 00:44:52,309 --> 00:44:47,599 somewhere between seventeen thousand and 957 00:44:58,470 --> 00:44:55,829 although the object looks stationary um 958 00:45:03,190 --> 00:44:58,480 we it did not seem to be closing the gap 959 00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:05,109 yeah well that's kind of how it goes mr 960 00:45:15,990 --> 00:45:11,190 that's how it goes it's how all these 961 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:22,710 yes he's a total ripper 962 00:45:28,790 --> 00:45:25,349 yeah found these documents by going on a 963 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,750 all right 964 00:45:34,309 --> 00:45:32,390 so 965 00:45:36,710 --> 00:45:34,319 and then this is pretty much you know 966 00:45:39,829 --> 00:45:36,720 the the following stuff how he tells his 967 00:45:41,349 --> 00:45:39,839 family about this stuff and goes to work 968 00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:41,359 and 969 00:45:46,870 --> 00:45:45,200 skeptical of 970 00:45:51,190 --> 00:45:46,880 flying saucer reports and all that kind 971 00:45:56,790 --> 00:45:53,589 leads me to believe that it was not 972 00:46:00,870 --> 00:45:56,800 exactly an illusion i observed pretty 973 00:46:04,390 --> 00:46:02,069 so 974 00:46:06,150 --> 00:46:04,400 it's pretty good then you get another um 975 00:46:08,230 --> 00:46:06,160 testimony from the other pilot that you 976 00:46:09,750 --> 00:46:08,240 can look into as well 977 00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:09,760 again 978 00:46:14,950 --> 00:46:13,200 witness citizen dot com 979 00:46:16,470 --> 00:46:14,960 and you can check that out 980 00:46:18,630 --> 00:46:16,480 i guess i should make like maybe a 981 00:46:21,750 --> 00:46:18,640 banner or something so because it's 982 00:46:23,270 --> 00:46:21,760 probably hard to remember that right 983 00:46:29,990 --> 00:46:23,280 witness 984 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:37,109 [Laughter] 985 00:46:41,270 --> 00:46:39,510 yeah so i'll save that i'll save that 986 00:46:43,990 --> 00:46:41,280 banner for you all so you can just go 987 00:46:46,550 --> 00:46:44,000 check it out on your own meantime 988 00:46:48,710 --> 00:46:46,560 check out the files got a clarence 989 00:46:50,309 --> 00:46:48,720 here's my southern voice i found it 990 00:46:51,829 --> 00:46:50,319 you know whenever i want to do the 991 00:46:54,309 --> 00:46:51,839 southern voice i just have to think of 992 00:46:56,550 --> 00:46:54,319 them murder shows when every time 993 00:47:01,670 --> 00:46:56,560 something happens he turned around and 994 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,270 know what i mean 995 00:47:07,510 --> 00:47:06,630 so 996 00:47:13,270 --> 00:47:07,520 as 997 00:47:14,550 --> 00:47:13,280 else to do but to watch the object and 998 00:47:21,990 --> 00:47:14,560 she was dead 999 00:47:27,109 --> 00:47:24,110 that means a lot 1000 00:47:29,109 --> 00:47:27,119 [Laughter] 1001 00:47:30,630 --> 00:47:29,119 thanks there 1002 00:47:31,750 --> 00:47:30,640 she done that 1003 00:47:33,589 --> 00:47:31,760 i mean 1004 00:47:35,349 --> 00:47:33,599 gerald and debbie were getting along 1005 00:47:37,750 --> 00:47:35,359 just fine i just talked to debbie the 1006 00:47:39,109 --> 00:47:37,760 other day turned around she was dead i 1007 00:47:41,030 --> 00:47:39,119 don't know 1008 00:47:42,210 --> 00:47:41,040 that's pretty much how every forensic 1009 00:47:45,589 --> 00:47:42,220 files episode goes 1010 00:47:47,829 --> 00:47:45,599 [Laughter] 1011 00:47:49,349 --> 00:47:47,839 which i unfortunately have to watch way 1012 00:47:53,270 --> 00:47:49,359 too many of those because my wife can't 1013 00:47:56,790 --> 00:47:53,280 fall asleep unless it's on 1014 00:48:00,790 --> 00:47:56,800 so the interesting part of this document 1015 00:48:03,510 --> 00:48:00,800 i'm going to scroll up to the top 1016 00:48:05,349 --> 00:48:03,520 don't freak out 1017 00:48:06,710 --> 00:48:05,359 is 1018 00:48:12,710 --> 00:48:06,720 conclusion 1019 00:48:23,030 --> 00:48:15,829 chief engineer lockheed is reporting 1020 00:48:25,109 --> 00:48:23,910 cool 1021 00:48:27,750 --> 00:48:25,119 you know what's interesting though here 1022 00:48:30,710 --> 00:48:27,760 is physical specimen 1023 00:48:32,069 --> 00:48:30,720 there's nothing marked there's no new or 1024 00:48:35,510 --> 00:48:32,079 yes 1025 00:48:41,030 --> 00:48:38,630 you don't see that very often 1026 00:48:43,349 --> 00:48:41,040 at all 1027 00:48:47,829 --> 00:48:44,790 that's the 1028 00:48:51,109 --> 00:48:49,910 is a pretty interesting one most 1029 00:48:53,109 --> 00:48:51,119 definitely 1030 00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:53,119 and you know for better for worse it 1031 00:48:57,430 --> 00:48:55,200 gets uh all the buzz because of who the 1032 00:49:01,030 --> 00:48:57,440 person is but 1033 00:49:02,390 --> 00:49:01,040 that is not in any way shape or form 1034 00:49:07,190 --> 00:49:02,400 a rare 1035 00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:09,990 they happen all the time 1036 00:49:14,950 --> 00:49:12,000 people been seeing these dude daddies 1037 00:49:17,430 --> 00:49:14,960 all over the sky since 1947 1038 00:49:19,990 --> 00:49:17,440 pilots army boys 1039 00:49:22,390 --> 00:49:20,000 general citizens 1040 00:49:24,790 --> 00:49:22,400 dogs cats 1041 00:49:28,069 --> 00:49:24,800 bananas 1042 00:49:30,230 --> 00:49:28,079 they all see them saucers 1043 00:49:32,309 --> 00:49:30,240 all right i'll keep talking like this 1044 00:49:34,390 --> 00:49:32,319 all day long if i get these 1045 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:34,400 i got 4.99 super stickers just for 1046 00:49:41,829 --> 00:49:36,010 saying she's dead 1047 00:49:48,309 --> 00:49:43,940 logical hardheaded sean yep 1048 00:49:52,150 --> 00:49:50,230 yep this is this is about right she done 1049 00:49:54,069 --> 00:49:52,160 did it herself yeah 1050 00:49:56,710 --> 00:49:54,079 but you know 1051 00:49:58,390 --> 00:49:56,720 we have our own uber accent up here 1052 00:49:59,510 --> 00:49:58,400 that's for sure you know 1053 00:50:00,950 --> 00:49:59,520 a 1054 00:50:02,309 --> 00:50:00,960 so 1055 00:50:05,349 --> 00:50:02,319 that's natural 1056 00:50:07,670 --> 00:50:05,359 it's a natural accent for me 1057 00:50:09,430 --> 00:50:07,680 so this one is pretty interesting this 1058 00:50:10,710 --> 00:50:09,440 document 1059 00:50:14,710 --> 00:50:10,720 is about 1060 00:50:19,589 --> 00:50:14,720 well it says materi materiella but it's 1061 00:50:25,670 --> 00:50:22,790 and this isn't even like a 1062 00:50:27,430 --> 00:50:25,680 ufo sighting it's this guy is over in 1063 00:50:28,950 --> 00:50:27,440 europe unfortunately his name's blacked 1064 00:50:31,109 --> 00:50:28,960 out maybe we can figure out who it is 1065 00:50:36,710 --> 00:50:31,119 eventually but he gets this piece of 1066 00:50:41,430 --> 00:50:39,349 he turns it in to blue book it's not a 1067 00:50:45,109 --> 00:50:41,440 meteorite 1068 00:50:46,230 --> 00:50:45,119 why is it being made of mostly courts 1069 00:50:48,470 --> 00:50:46,240 but 1070 00:50:50,870 --> 00:50:48,480 what it is made of 1071 00:50:54,390 --> 00:50:50,880 they discuss it possibly being very 1072 00:50:57,589 --> 00:50:54,400 useful in some of their technologies and 1073 00:51:02,150 --> 00:50:59,990 he knows some other people that has 1074 00:51:06,950 --> 00:51:02,160 different kinds of 1075 00:51:12,870 --> 00:51:10,230 you know sneak around and get some 1076 00:51:15,670 --> 00:51:12,880 interesting huh 1077 00:51:17,270 --> 00:51:15,680 so let's get to that 1078 00:51:20,829 --> 00:51:17,280 here's the analysis 1079 00:51:24,150 --> 00:51:20,839 analysis of suspected 1080 00:51:25,589 --> 00:51:24,160 meteorite sergeant moody 1081 00:51:27,589 --> 00:51:25,599 who believe it or not he was the nicest 1082 00:51:30,950 --> 00:51:27,599 guy in the world 1083 00:51:33,670 --> 00:51:30,960 never had a cranky day in his life 1084 00:51:36,950 --> 00:51:33,680 i don't know that but that would be 1085 00:51:40,660 --> 00:51:39,910 sergeant moody nicest deck gone guy i've 1086 00:51:43,910 --> 00:51:40,670 ever met 1087 00:51:45,990 --> 00:51:43,920 [Laughter] 1088 00:51:48,630 --> 00:51:46,000 so you know they do their different 1089 00:51:50,549 --> 00:51:48,640 stuff here whatever it was back in this 1090 00:51:53,030 --> 00:51:50,559 time was probably kind of crappy 1091 00:51:55,109 --> 00:51:53,040 compared to now but x-ray diffraction 1092 00:51:58,390 --> 00:51:55,119 gave no pattern infrared spectrum showed 1093 00:51:59,430 --> 00:51:58,400 no organic material present which is 1094 00:52:02,710 --> 00:51:59,440 interesting 1095 00:52:05,670 --> 00:52:02,720 but so no organic material present but a 1096 00:52:08,309 --> 00:52:05,680 spectrum similar to a inorganic silicate 1097 00:52:10,150 --> 00:52:08,319 so i looked that up a little bit 1098 00:52:11,510 --> 00:52:10,160 you know there's you'll find stuff on 1099 00:52:12,150 --> 00:52:11,520 google but i don't know what the hell it 1100 00:52:14,470 --> 00:52:12,160 is 1101 00:52:18,390 --> 00:52:14,480 it's different 1102 00:52:19,670 --> 00:52:18,400 i don't know coding stuff maybe 1103 00:52:22,069 --> 00:52:19,680 could have helped with their stealth 1104 00:52:24,069 --> 00:52:22,079 stuff if you got any uh 1105 00:52:26,549 --> 00:52:24,079 you know um 1106 00:52:27,829 --> 00:52:26,559 element nerds out there 1107 00:52:32,230 --> 00:52:27,839 check this out 1108 00:52:33,750 --> 00:52:32,240 say what it is i'm sure somebody is 1109 00:52:40,150 --> 00:52:33,760 you know what we're not seeing though is 1110 00:52:47,750 --> 00:52:42,549 yeah but we get special k 1111 00:52:53,589 --> 00:52:50,630 materiella's lab analysis must mean 1112 00:52:56,150 --> 00:52:53,599 yeah i think it's a typo 1113 00:52:59,030 --> 00:52:56,160 believe it or not they do 1114 00:52:59,990 --> 00:52:59,040 um make typos 1115 00:53:01,829 --> 00:53:00,000 you know 1116 00:53:03,910 --> 00:53:01,839 maybe it isn't but 1117 00:53:05,670 --> 00:53:03,920 i'm guessing it is 1118 00:53:09,829 --> 00:53:05,680 by the way paul 1119 00:53:17,990 --> 00:53:12,870 mymalona paul my milona 1120 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:24,390 so pretty interesting dr s morrissey 1121 00:53:29,430 --> 00:53:27,270 so if anybody out there has any biz or 1122 00:53:31,589 --> 00:53:29,440 information on those two people 1123 00:53:34,950 --> 00:53:31,599 these are gonna be who would be involved 1124 00:53:37,510 --> 00:53:34,960 in some type of exotic material 1125 00:53:39,349 --> 00:53:37,520 that they would get their hands on 1126 00:53:41,270 --> 00:53:39,359 because as we can see 1127 00:53:44,390 --> 00:53:41,280 they're looking at this handed to them 1128 00:53:45,829 --> 00:53:44,400 from somebody from europe by the way 1129 00:53:47,109 --> 00:53:45,839 brought it from europe all the way from 1130 00:53:50,390 --> 00:53:47,119 europe 1131 00:53:54,829 --> 00:53:53,670 yeah quartz is what i was seeing courts 1132 00:54:00,069 --> 00:53:54,839 so i don't know 1133 00:54:04,870 --> 00:54:02,150 glass is interesting emission 1134 00:54:07,349 --> 00:54:04,880 unsuspected meteor right so the most 1135 00:54:09,430 --> 00:54:07,359 interesting kind of part to me here when 1136 00:54:11,670 --> 00:54:09,440 i read this because i don't really know 1137 00:54:12,710 --> 00:54:11,680 much of what i'm looking at as far as 1138 00:54:15,589 --> 00:54:12,720 the 1139 00:54:17,190 --> 00:54:15,599 suspected meteorite materials 1140 00:54:19,190 --> 00:54:17,200 holloman air force base pretty 1141 00:54:20,630 --> 00:54:19,200 interesting 1142 00:54:23,670 --> 00:54:20,640 they completed the analysis they're 1143 00:54:25,510 --> 00:54:23,680 returning the object apparently 1144 00:54:28,870 --> 00:54:25,520 this guy i see quite a bit 1145 00:54:30,870 --> 00:54:28,880 junk whatever eric 1146 00:54:33,750 --> 00:54:30,880 but i want to get down to 1147 00:54:36,630 --> 00:54:33,760 okay so this is interesting 1148 00:54:41,109 --> 00:54:36,640 also is dr ernest steinov 1149 00:54:42,710 --> 00:54:41,119 dr ernest steinhoff uh afmdc chief 1150 00:54:44,789 --> 00:54:42,720 scientist on a recent trip to europe 1151 00:54:46,950 --> 00:54:44,799 that meteorite is 1152 00:54:48,549 --> 00:54:46,960 flying saucer 1153 00:54:51,030 --> 00:54:48,559 on a recent trip to europe picked up a 1154 00:54:53,670 --> 00:54:51,040 small bit of saucer allegedly part of a 1155 00:54:56,069 --> 00:54:53,680 larger flying saucer 1156 00:54:57,589 --> 00:54:56,079 the object plus a translated description 1157 00:55:00,150 --> 00:54:57,599 are forwarded with this letter in the 1158 00:55:01,910 --> 00:55:00,160 event the object is of interest to you 1159 00:55:05,109 --> 00:55:01,920 request you arrange for detailed 1160 00:55:06,710 --> 00:55:05,119 analysis and provide my office mdfc with 1161 00:55:09,190 --> 00:55:06,720 the final report if you are not 1162 00:55:10,870 --> 00:55:09,200 interested please return the object 1163 00:55:13,349 --> 00:55:10,880 we're getting it pretty interesting here 1164 00:55:25,910 --> 00:55:13,359 and enclosures and them over to the 1165 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,990 interesting huh 1166 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:35,750 pretty interesting 1167 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,109 howard conkey 1168 00:55:44,710 --> 00:55:41,430 socorro new mexico 1169 00:56:00,829 --> 00:55:49,430 can't really tell 1170 00:56:05,910 --> 00:56:03,190 packaging well i don't know maybe 1171 00:56:11,510 --> 00:56:05,920 they're not meteors bob 1172 00:56:16,150 --> 00:56:14,069 now this gets even more interesting 1173 00:56:18,390 --> 00:56:16,160 um it has a degree of hardness six to 1174 00:56:20,950 --> 00:56:18,400 eight contains quartz and in a 1175 00:56:23,990 --> 00:56:20,960 pulverized state can be utilized as a 1176 00:56:26,789 --> 00:56:24,000 safety coating against x-rays and other 1177 00:56:30,789 --> 00:56:28,950 i'm convinced that the examination of 1178 00:56:32,789 --> 00:56:30,799 this specimen could lead to an 1179 00:56:35,430 --> 00:56:32,799 interesting result especially in view of 1180 00:56:38,150 --> 00:56:35,440 the fact that the world's best research 1181 00:56:39,670 --> 00:56:38,160 facilities are at your disposal 1182 00:56:41,349 --> 00:56:39,680 should you have an interest in other 1183 00:56:42,789 --> 00:56:41,359 materials i can also make those 1184 00:56:44,710 --> 00:56:42,799 available to you 1185 00:56:45,510 --> 00:56:44,720 i personally am not in possession of 1186 00:56:47,270 --> 00:56:45,520 these 1187 00:56:50,230 --> 00:56:47,280 meteor stones 1188 00:56:55,510 --> 00:56:50,240 however i can act as the go-between to 1189 00:56:55,520 --> 00:57:05,109 i thought they weren't meteors 1190 00:57:08,150 --> 00:57:06,789 but they weren't meteors 1191 00:57:10,470 --> 00:57:08,160 mr 1192 00:57:11,510 --> 00:57:10,480 we got a translator on deck here 1193 00:57:16,069 --> 00:57:11,520 victor 1194 00:57:16,079 --> 00:57:21,030 interesting too hey like socorro 1195 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:27,030 new mexico was just 1196 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,950 a few months prior to this 1197 00:57:34,069 --> 00:57:32,870 and they're mentioned 1198 00:57:36,549 --> 00:57:34,079 the mine 1199 00:57:38,230 --> 00:57:36,559 socorro mine school is mentioned in this 1200 00:57:40,230 --> 00:57:38,240 pretty interesting 1201 00:57:43,910 --> 00:57:40,240 europe 12 october case includes physical 1202 00:57:45,270 --> 00:57:43,920 specimen courts in separate folder 1203 00:57:48,549 --> 00:57:45,280 um so yeah 1204 00:57:51,750 --> 00:57:48,559 that is about it 1205 00:57:55,349 --> 00:57:51,760 do you guys want this document 1206 00:57:58,150 --> 00:57:55,359 if you want it i can upload it 1207 00:57:59,670 --> 00:57:58,160 um but that is up to you 1208 00:58:02,150 --> 00:57:59,680 if you don't want it i don't have to 1209 00:58:05,750 --> 00:58:02,160 upload it 1210 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:10,069 easy for me 1211 00:58:14,309 --> 00:58:11,670 you know 1212 00:58:19,109 --> 00:58:15,430 but 1213 00:58:23,190 --> 00:58:19,119 you know i probably should anyways right 1214 00:58:27,030 --> 00:58:23,200 you guys are gonna want that stuff 1215 00:58:31,589 --> 00:58:30,150 it really depends doesn't it 1216 00:58:34,829 --> 00:58:31,599 who you are 1217 00:58:40,549 --> 00:58:38,390 doing i think for researchers out there 1218 00:58:43,430 --> 00:58:40,559 there could be some 1219 00:58:44,870 --> 00:58:43,440 names or other things 1220 00:58:48,950 --> 00:58:44,880 that could 1221 00:58:53,670 --> 00:58:51,589 at the very least 1222 00:58:56,150 --> 00:58:53,680 so let me 1223 00:58:57,990 --> 00:58:56,160 share that with you 1224 00:59:02,230 --> 00:58:58,000 that's why it pays to be in the live 1225 00:59:08,309 --> 00:59:02,240 checks in the live chats i put the links 1226 00:59:12,390 --> 00:59:10,549 a little bit of a delay huh yeah i don't 1227 00:59:13,910 --> 00:59:12,400 know what's going on my internet 1228 00:59:17,349 --> 00:59:13,920 actually says it's acting pretty good 1229 00:59:19,670 --> 00:59:17,359 right now so i'm not sure what's up 1230 00:59:21,829 --> 00:59:19,680 but we're pretty much finished here 1231 00:59:24,390 --> 00:59:21,839 anyways 1232 00:59:25,430 --> 00:59:24,400 um this is the end of the oh 1233 00:59:27,829 --> 00:59:25,440 yeah 1234 00:59:30,829 --> 00:59:27,839 isn't that interesting air force missile 1235 00:59:36,390 --> 00:59:34,309 center pretty interesting 1236 00:59:38,789 --> 00:59:36,400 pretty interesting 1237 00:59:42,390 --> 00:59:38,799 check that out 1238 00:59:45,030 --> 00:59:42,400 uh share this stuff on the boob tube 1239 00:59:46,549 --> 00:59:45,040 uh like the video 1240 00:59:48,150 --> 00:59:46,559 subscribe 1241 00:59:49,510 --> 00:59:48,160 all that kind of stuff 1242 00:59:51,829 --> 00:59:49,520 um thanks for 1243 00:59:53,589 --> 00:59:51,839 letting me um 1244 00:59:57,030 --> 00:59:53,599 are listening to 1245 00:59:59,750 --> 00:59:57,040 a little bit of my background 1246 01:00:02,069 --> 00:59:59,760 and why i'm here doing what i'm 1247 01:00:05,430 --> 01:00:02,079 why i'm here doing 1248 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:09,589 i really appreciate you guys um 1249 01:00:15,589 --> 01:00:11,829 let me discuss a little bit of that that 1250 01:00:17,829 --> 01:00:15,599 helps most definitely 1251 01:00:19,190 --> 01:00:17,839 and it's you know good for you to know a 1252 01:00:21,589 --> 01:00:19,200 little bit about me 1253 01:00:27,750 --> 01:00:23,829 i think it's fair 1254 01:00:31,030 --> 01:00:29,270 we did a lot today 1255 01:00:33,190 --> 01:00:31,040 went through a couple cases 1256 01:00:36,150 --> 01:00:33,200 you learned about me 1257 01:00:37,910 --> 01:00:36,160 you saw my new poster 1258 01:00:40,150 --> 01:00:37,920 pretty cool 1259 01:00:41,990 --> 01:00:40,160 definitely 1260 01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:42,000 so 1261 01:00:47,990 --> 01:00:44,130 next time you need leds on your clothes 1262 01:00:53,109 --> 01:00:51,190 i'm not that kind of person but 1263 01:00:56,390 --> 01:00:53,119 i'll think about it all right peace out 1264 01:00:58,789 --> 01:00:56,400 y'all have a great rest of the day i got 1265 01:01:00,789 --> 01:00:58,799 some cool stuff coming up next week 1266 01:01:02,390 --> 01:01:00,799 so keep your eyes on that and you know 1267 01:01:04,789 --> 01:01:02,400 if i find some cool documents you may 1268 01:01:06,150 --> 01:01:04,799 find me back here before then 1269 01:01:08,390 --> 01:01:06,160 um 1270 01:01:10,950 --> 01:01:08,400 and i'm waiting on a confirmation for a 1271 01:01:12,950 --> 01:01:10,960 couple guests so you'll see that as i 1272 01:01:15,349 --> 01:01:12,960 upload it 1273 01:01:16,390 --> 01:01:15,359 but until then or until next time 1274 01:01:20,789 --> 01:01:16,400 saturday 1275 01:01:22,069 --> 01:01:20,799 and we're taking your calls so make sure 1276 01:01:23,910 --> 01:01:22,079 you're available 1277 01:01:26,309 --> 01:01:23,920 and you call otherwise it's going to be 1278 01:01:32,180 --> 01:01:26,319 a bad show